some of the proposals for the fund, the c.i.o., if i recall, rob, you had a study around that so we were stealing good ideas from anywhere and this one was originally yours. so it was really one part of it but it was the notion of can we make the federal government better, faster, sheeper through e-government. and at the time there was a belief in the transformation al elements of e.-government at the time. i think the original idea was for $250 million fund which got cut down pretty radically in the end for those of you that led during the lethchure. it didn't get to where we wanted but it was the first time a candidate had talked about e.-government in the presidential campaign. and from there, kevin and crew took it up. >> thank you. kevin, so nur that situation where you are seing the white house doing things and seing the importance of it. how did you get to the act itself? >> well, there were some sporadic efforts throughout the government. there was a search engine at the end of the clintoner rafment starting in late 1999, early 2,000, senator lieberman launched an interactive too